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'Vietnamese mountains and rivers' by Ly Thuong Kiet (1077)




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Nam quốc sơn hà   

Nam quốc sơn hà Nam đế cư,
Tiệt nhiên định phận tại thiên thư.
Như hà nghịch lỗ lai xâm phạm,
Nhữ đẳng hành khan thủ bại hư.


Sông núi nước Nam

Sông núi nước Nam vua Nam ở,
Rành rành định phận tại sách trời.
Cớ sao lũ giặc sang xâm phạm,
Chúng bay sẽ bị đánh tơi bời.


南國山河

南 國 山 河 南 帝 居
截 然 定 分 在 天 書
如 何 逆 虜 來 侵 犯
汝 等 行 看 取 敗 虛


Vietnamese Mountains and Rivers

Over Mountains and Rivers of the South,
reigns the Emperor of the South,
As it stands written forever in the Book of Heaven.
How dare those barbarians invade our land?
Your armies, without pity, will be annihilated


Les Monts et Les Fleuves de L'Empire du Sud

Sur les monts et les fleuves du Sud,
règne l'Empereur du Sud.
Ainsi en a décidé à jamais le Céleste Livre.
Comment, vous les barbares, osez-vous envahir notre sol?
Vos hordes, sans pitié, seront anéanties!


แผ่นดินเวียตนาม

แผ่นดินเวียตนาม กษัตริย์เวียตนามทรงอยู่
เขตแดนถูกกำหนดชัดเจนโดยสวรรค์
เหตุไฉน ศัตรูจึงมารุกล้ำ
พวกมึงจะถูกตีอย่างย่อยยับ


Das Land Vietnam

Das Land Vietnam, wo sein König bleibt.
Das is offensichtlich im Heiligen Buch zugeteilt.
Warum haben die Eindringlinge es überschritten?
Euch wird eine brutale Niederlage beigebracht!


베트남 강산에는 베트남 왕이 산다.

베트남 강산에는 베트남 왕이 산다.

그것은 바로 하늘의 뜻에 따른 운명이다.

그런데 왜 너희 원수들은 이곳을 차지하러 오는가.

너희들은 패배해서 쫓겨나갈 것이다.

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mao   |05-26-2008 12:40:38
It's ironically that Vietnam is the country that adopts the most of chinese culture, thinking and systems than any of country outthere. And yet harbor one of the more anti-china stance among its people, it's ingrained its culture,lol.

When the whites conquer its colonies it's using catholicsm to pacify the indegineous people and it worked.

In Confucism, every man wants to be its own boss. that's what we seeing from vietnamese..
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bibo   |05-27-2008 20:29:46
Before the Quin dynasty, there were 6 countries in the area now called China. The Viet people already had their own territory at around the same, and this very territory, as small as it is, is still where it is called Vietnam with the same Viet people living on it. Back then there were no such thing is Chinese but six different nations that eventually lost their independent to the Quin. The first few generations were so upset and loyal to the old king, . . . look at their children now, the ...
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Tony   |05-28-2008 06:25:21
Mao,

When Vietnamese really began their effort to gain independence from French colonialism, they decided to forego the former style of writing with characters, but instead adopted Western script (in Vietnamese 'national script'). They made use of concepts of independence and human rights learned through a French education. They ate French bread too.

Do you see a correlation between how the Vietnamese gained independence from the French and how they gained independence from the Chi...
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calgrad97   |05-28-2008 16:33:19
Who can deny that Chinese civilization is big and powerful? Who reject the dept of Confucism philosophy? Why is it a problem to learn from something worth learning?

The Vietnamese learn from Chinese because Chinese has things worth learning. It would be a problem if you know something worth learning, and insist not to learn from it. The point is we pick and choose what valuable to learn, and we keep our value tight.

We learn Confucianism from the Chinese philosopher, but we never lea...
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oldbear   |05-29-2008 11:02:36
lol mao, you're confused. as far as anti-chinese goes amongst VNese, there's none. I have yet to see any anti-chinese movements thoughout our history. prove me wrong. Now if you're interested in real anti-chinese movements, read INdonesia, malaysia history
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Tony   |06-11-2008 18:35:32
Mao,

Everything on this webpage right now is in English. If there is Vietnamese, the Vietnamese is also translated into English. So if you want your post to stay, you might consider translating it into English for all to read. And we do value and appreciate debate on this forum, especially from our Chinese friends. So, please take some time to translate your post. If not, the admin may not have a choice but to remove it, which would be a waste of your time for having posted it.
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dinhly  - Vietan to assume UNSC presidency   |06-30-2008 20:58:20
Vietnam will assume the presidency of the United Nations Security Council (UNSC), beginning on July 1. Vietnam should take this golden opportunity to bring up the issue of Paracel & Spratly islands and settle the dispute through the UN. I call on Viet Will organizer and Vietnamese around the world to rally for the love of our country and our future! Let us bring out the Bronze Drum and rally at UN headquarter for the love of Vietnam!
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Tony   |07-03-2008 20:10:44
It is quite unfortunate that in the Press Conference below, there is no mention of the issue of the South China Sea dispute.
____________________

Press conference by Security Council President
The Middle East, African issues, and an open debate on children and armed conflict will constitute the focus of the United Nations Security Council’s work programme during July, Le Luong Minh, Permanent Representative of Viet Nam and Council’s President for the month, told correspondents at a H...
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Tony   |07-04-2008 01:23:07
Hi Dinh Ly,

Do you have any ideas of what VietWill or other groups should do at this time? It would be good if you can propose some ideas and perhaps see if it is something that would help us towards our goals. I hope to see your response!
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Dinh Ly   |07-04-2008 23:01:26
Tony,

Your contribution to this forum is commendable. I believe dissemination of information through online and offline channel is important so keep up the great work. The next steps are participation and action.
1)Participation: How do we mobilize people and get the public to participate in our cause.
2)Action: What action shall we take.
The detail of which we/others can explore further.

Hanoi have always strike a diplomatic and concillatory tone toward the issue, and most of the...
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